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05 Jan 2005 -- Synthetic Society Meeting
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 | Synthetic Tea - last november; amy -
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 | how to get past the cocktail party discussion
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| developing sophistication in discussion and dialog
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| Amy has agreed to sponsor another tea; Jan 25th in the Stata Center; starr conference room
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| Can we come up with a scalable organizational frame wo make progress on these topics
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| (look back; think forward and PoET)
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 | with a possible modus operandi
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| focus and identify/brainstorm on 4 topics
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| security as a good news/bad news aggrandizement; how to discuss it better
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| also, from Drew, to be more direct, could we articulate a strategy for managing these risks that is better than what's being done now; and how would you implement it
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| societal perceptions of the risks
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| more than that, a range of perceptions of risk
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| how to generate credible appraisals of risk
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| public understanding and perception
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| playing God; engineering life
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| intellectual property rights
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| patents as a concept; tragic disconnection already before we get into this set of areas
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| expensive fights; encouraging/blocking investment
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| researcher culture - community organization and culture
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| politicized environment coming, not yet there
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| how to organize in advance
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| in light of what may have happened in the past in other areas
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| near and medium term agenda on how to progress bringing these groups together
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| Are these the four topics, or are there other ones that the research community is facing
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| how far along are we really? how long before money can get made? how long before the system is manageable?
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| How to get quickly up to speed
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| Scot Mohr -- emergence of the regulatory systems that will come in anticipation of the potential problems
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| (Cambridge and recombinant DNA)
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| Outreach to those who will be in the forefront of the inevitable political/regulatory action
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| Drew - that's the point of what we're trying to form here
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| we can't make crisp arguments about what we want
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| Rocco: is understanding a separate or an umbrella notion
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| drew -- laurie zoloth's list and the wiki stuff
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| let's elaborate - queries
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| What is the audience; their perceptions will shape/frame their responses, queries and concerns?
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| How do you explain the stuff?
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| community organization and culture
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| the market will distort the science; what do we want?
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| When we should distinguish synth bio from genetic engineering?
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| is the gene engineering on steroids?
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| ethically, they are not distinguishable
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| security - its; on steroids
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| Are you not presupposing your outcomes?
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| should we reframe the questions around the larger question of how will this affect our lives on a day to day basis?
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| rather than just security and markets
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| Is this about what is short term doable versus long term credible
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| Examples for the 4 topics
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| the govt wont invest because they only see downside, not upside; yet investment in research
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| if it's enabling construction then it's potentially too much trouble to deal with
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| understanding, perception and ethics
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| emails from students on playing God
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| registry of parts; what's the IP status
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| sale of parts without any consideration of IPR
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| current societies all terribly off topic and not getting at the questions
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| So, can we self organize around these topics and then do something about it
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| small groups rather than large groups
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| much bigger group of these people; we could try to do something on Jan 25th and report back to these groups
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| what these issues really are and to talk about what needs to be done about it
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| What's the goal of the groups
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| articulate the problem - how to explain it to someone else
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| can we get consensus around that discussion
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| what's the uncertainty and where does it stem from
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| how to tackle the uncertainty
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| empirics - past stuff/conventional wisdoms (why not Asilomar) - anchoring the speculation; relevance of earlier stuff
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| what to do about it - handoff?
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| how to tackle thinking about that
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| Laurie Zoloth at Northwestern; LBNL group - perception stuff
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| Drew builds name list for topics
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| testing the "stupid" ideas?
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| working meeting? - where do we come to by then
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| Drew wants to address these ideas and move on
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| can't be just making a list of issues
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| isn't there anything that we can ask ourselves to cull that list for action; importance; uncertainty
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| Can we get onto a discussion of the potential upsides as well as the downsides
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| synthetic biology and applications link
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| for details on meetings, etc.
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